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Saṁyutta Nikāya 35.83 Linked Discourses 35.83

8. Gilānavagga 8. Sick

PhaggunapaƱhāsutta Phagguna’s Question

Atha kho āyasmā phagguno …pe… ekamantaṁ nisinno kho āyasmā phagguno bhagavantaṁ etadavoca: And then Venerable Phagguna went up to the Buddha … and said to him:

ā€œAtthi nu kho, bhante, taṁ cakkhu, yena cakkhunā atÄ«te buddhe parinibbute chinnapapaƱce chinnavaį¹­ume pariyādinnavaį¹­į¹­e sabbadukkhavÄ«tivaį¹­į¹­e paƱƱāpayamāno paƱƱāpeyya …pe… ā€œSir, suppose someone were to describe the Buddhas of the past who have become fully quenched, cut off proliferation, cut off the course, finished off the cycle, and passed beyond all suffering. Does the eye exist by which they could be described? Cited at Kv 1.6:95.3 with slight change. | This is the only doctrinal context where we find vaį¹­uma (ā€œcourseā€). The commentary explains it as the ā€œcourse of cravingā€. However, in Buddhist Sanskrit we find the phrases chinnaṁ vartmaṁ na vartati (Mahāvastu 2.416) and chinnaṁ vartma na pravartate (Nidāna Saṁyukta 11.6), which recall the Pali phrase vaį¹­į¹­aṁ vattati (DN 15:22.6), where vaį¹­į¹­a occurs in the next word of the current passage. This suggests that the sense is, rather, the ā€œcourse of transmigrationā€, as in the later Sanskrit phrase saṁsāravartmani.

atthi nu kho, bhante, sā jivhā, yāya jivhāya atÄ«te buddhe parinibbute chinnapapaƱce chinnavaį¹­ume pariyādinnavaį¹­į¹­e sabbadukkhavÄ«tivaį¹­į¹­e paƱƱāpayamāno paƱƱāpeyya …pe… Does the ear … nose … tongue … body exist …?

atthi nu kho so, bhante, mano, yena manena atÄ«te buddhe parinibbute chinnapapaƱce chinnavaį¹­ume pariyādinnavaį¹­į¹­e sabbadukkhavÄ«tivaį¹­į¹­e paƱƱāpayamāno paƱƱāpeyyÄā€ti? Does the mind exist by which they could be described?ā€

ā€œNatthi kho taṁ, phagguna, cakkhu, yena cakkhunā atÄ«te buddhe parinibbute chinnapapaƱce chinnavaį¹­ume pariyādinnavaį¹­į¹­e sabbadukkhavÄ«tivaį¹­į¹­e paƱƱāpayamāno paƱƱāpeyya …pe… ā€œPhagguna, suppose someone were to describe the Buddhas of the past who have become fully quenched, cut off proliferation, cut off the course, finished off the cycle, and passed beyond all suffering. The eye does not exist by which they could be described.

natthi kho sā, phagguna, jivhā, yāya jivhāya atÄ«te buddhe parinibbute chinnapapaƱce chinnavaį¹­ume pariyādinnavaį¹­į¹­e sabbadukkhavÄ«tivaį¹­į¹­e paƱƱāpayamāno paƱƱāpeyya …pe… The ear … nose … tongue … body does not exist ….

natthi kho so, phagguna, mano, yena manena atÄ«te buddhe parinibbute chinnapapaƱce chinnavaį¹­ume pariyādinnavaį¹­į¹­e sabbadukkhavÄ«tivaį¹­į¹­e paƱƱāpayamāno paƱƱāpeyyÄā€ti. The mind does not exist by which they could be described.ā€

Dasamaṁ.

Gilānavaggo tatiyo.

Tassuddānaṁ

Gilānena duve vuttā,

rādhena apare tayo;

Avijjāya ca dve vuttā,

bhikkhu loko ca phaggunoti.
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