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Saṁyutta Nikāya 24.1 Linked Discourses 24.1

1. Sotāpattivagga 1. Stream-Entry

Vātasutta Winds

Ekaṁ samayaṁ bhagavā sāvatthiyaṁ viharati jetavane. At one time the Buddha was staying near SāvatthÄ« in Jeta’s Grove.

Bhagavā etadavoca: The Buddha said this:

ā€œkismiṁ nu kho, bhikkhave, sati, kiṁ upādāya, kiṁ abhinivissa evaṁ diį¹­į¹­hi uppajjati: ā€œMendicants, when what exists, because of grasping what and insisting on what, does the view arise:

ā€˜na vātā vāyanti, na najjo sandanti, na gabbhiniyo vijāyanti, na candimasÅ«riyā udenti vā apenti vā esikaį¹­į¹­hāyiį¹­į¹­hitÄā€™ā€ti? ā€˜Winds don’t blow; rivers don’t flow; pregnant women don’t give birth; the moon and stars neither rise nor set, but stand firm like a pillar’?ā€ This doctrine of the illusory nature of change is found in Pali only in this chapter, and I have not been able to trace it elsewhere. We might call it the niccavāda, the ā€œdoctrine of permanenceā€. Nonetheless, the expression ā€œstanding firm like a pillarā€ is associated with eternalism generally (DN 1:1.33.11), and here links up with the seven uncreated substances (SN 24.8:1.3, MN 76:16.2, DN 2:26.2). This is attributed to Pakudha Kaccāyana, who is associated with the Ājivakas. Probably this is an expression of the Ājivaka belief that reality is fixed and change an illusion (Basham, History and Doctrines of the ĀjÄ«vikas, p. 236).

ā€œBhagavaṁmÅ«lakā no, bhante, dhammā bhagavaṁnettikā bhagavaṁpaį¹­isaraṇā. Sādhu vata, bhante, bhagavantaƱƱeva paį¹­ibhātu etassa bhāsitassa attho. Bhagavato sutvā bhikkhÅ« dhāressantÄ«ā€ti. ā€œOur teachings are rooted in the Buddha. He is our guide and our refuge. Sir, may the Buddha himself please clarify the meaning of this. The mendicants will listen and remember it.ā€

ā€œTena hi, bhikkhave, suṇātha, sādhukaṁ manasi karotha, bhāsissāmÄ«ā€ti. ā€œWell then, mendicants, listen and apply your mind well, I will speak.ā€

ā€œEvaṁ, bhanteā€ti kho te bhikkhÅ« bhagavato paccassosuṁ. ā€œYes, sir,ā€ they replied.

Bhagavā etadavoca: The Buddha said this:

ā€œRÅ«pe kho, bhikkhave, sati, rÅ«paṁ upādāya, rÅ«paṁ abhinivissa evaṁ diį¹­į¹­hi uppajjati: ā€œWhen form exists, because of grasping form and insisting on form, the view arises:

ā€˜na vātā vāyanti, na najjo sandanti, na gabbhiniyo vijāyanti, na candimasÅ«riyā udenti vā apenti vā esikaį¹­į¹­hāyiį¹­į¹­hitā’ti. ā€˜Winds don’t blow; rivers don’t flow; pregnant women don’t give birth; the moon and stars neither rise nor set, but stand firm like a pillar.’

Vedanāya sati …pe… When feeling …

saƱƱāya sati … perception …

saį¹…khāresu sati … choices …

viññāṇe sati, viññāṇaṁ upādāya, viññāṇaṁ abhinivissa evaṁ diį¹­į¹­hi uppajjati: consciousness exists, because of grasping consciousness and insisting on consciousness, the view arises:

ā€˜na vātā vāyanti, na najjo sandanti, na gabbhiniyo vijāyanti, na candimasÅ«riyā udenti vā apenti vā esikaį¹­į¹­hāyiį¹­į¹­hitā’ti. ā€˜Winds don’t blow; rivers don’t flow; pregnant women don’t give birth; the moon and stars neither rise nor set, but stand firm like a pillar.’

Taṁ kiṁ maññatha, bhikkhave, What do you think, mendicants?

rÅ«paṁ niccaṁ vā aniccaṁ vÄā€ti? Is form permanent or impermanent?ā€

ā€œAniccaṁ, bhanteā€. ā€œImpermanent, sir.ā€

ā€œYaṁ panāniccaṁ dukkhaṁ vā taṁ sukhaṁ vÄā€ti? ā€œBut if it’s impermanent, is it suffering or happiness?ā€

ā€œDukkhaṁ, bhanteā€. ā€œSuffering, sir.ā€

ā€œYaṁ panāniccaṁ dukkhaṁ vipariṇāmadhammaṁ, api nu taṁ anupādāya evaṁ diį¹­į¹­hi uppajjeyya: ā€œBut by not grasping what’s impermanent, suffering, and perishable, would the view arise:

ā€˜na vātā vāyanti, na najjo sandanti, na gabbhiniyo vijāyanti, na candimasÅ«riyā udenti vā apenti vā esikaį¹­į¹­hāyiį¹­į¹­hitÄā€™ā€ti? ā€˜Winds don’t blow; rivers don’t flow; pregnant women don’t give birth; the moon and stars neither rise nor set, but stand firm like a pillar’?ā€

ā€œNo hetaṁ, bhanteā€. ā€œNo, sir.ā€

ā€œVedanā niccā vā aniccā vÄā€ti … ā€œIs feeling …

ā€œsaƱƱā … perception …

saį¹…khārā … choices …

viññāṇaṁ niccaṁ vā aniccaṁ vÄā€ti? consciousness permanent or impermanent?ā€ In the ā€œsix grounds for viewsā€ at MN 22:16.6, consciousness is absent, replaced by the ā€œepistemic heptadā€ (see below). As a ground for views, ā€œconsciousnessā€ means especially the states of expanded consciousness realized in deep meditation.

ā€œAniccaṁ, bhanteā€. ā€œImpermanent, sir.ā€

ā€œYaṁ panāniccaṁ dukkhaṁ vā taṁ sukhaṁ vÄā€ti? ā€œBut if it’s impermanent, is it suffering or happiness?ā€

ā€œDukkhaṁ, bhanteā€. ā€œSuffering, sir.ā€

ā€œYaṁ panāniccaṁ dukkhaṁ vipariṇāmadhammaṁ, api nu taṁ anupādāya evaṁ diį¹­į¹­hi uppajjeyya: ā€œBut by not grasping what’s impermanent, suffering, and perishable, would the view arise:

ā€˜na vātā vāyanti, na najjo sandanti, na gabbhiniyo vijāyanti, na candimasÅ«riyā udenti vā apenti vā esikaį¹­į¹­hāyiį¹­į¹­hitÄā€™ā€ti? ā€˜Winds don’t blow; rivers don’t flow; pregnant women don’t give birth; the moon and stars neither rise nor set, but stand firm like a pillar’?ā€

ā€œNo hetaṁ, bhanteā€. ā€œNo, sir.ā€

ā€œYampidaṁ diį¹­į¹­haṁ sutaṁ mutaṁ viƱƱātaṁ pattaṁ pariyesitaṁ anuvicaritaṁ manasā tampi niccaṁ vā aniccaṁ vÄā€ti? ā€œThat which is seen, heard, thought, known, attained, sought, and explored by the mind: is that permanent or impermanent?ā€ This set of seven appears at first glance to be somewhat arbitrary, as it combines four of the senses with meditation attainments. But it is not a description of sense experience. Rather, it describes how religious or spiritual beliefs come about, which is why smell, taste, and touch are omitted, and why it is introduced in this chapter. The truth, or what is believed to be the truth, is formulated from something ā€œseenā€ (as a vision, or the sight of a pure being), ā€œheardā€ (as teaching or scripture), ā€œthoughtā€ (as philosophical reasoning), ā€œknownā€ (through understanding or meditation), or ā€œattained, sought, and explored by the mindā€, which specifically refer to meditative realization. Thus I propose referring to this set as the ā€œepistemic heptadā€. This is an extension of the more common epistemic tetrad, where meditative states are included under the ā€œknownā€ (MN 1:19.1).

ā€œAniccaṁ, bhanteā€. ā€œImpermanent, sir.ā€

ā€œYaṁ panāniccaṁ dukkhaṁ vā taṁ sukhaṁ vÄā€ti? ā€œBut if it’s impermanent, is it suffering or happiness?ā€

ā€œDukkhaṁ, bhanteā€. ā€œSuffering, sir.ā€

ā€œYaṁ panāniccaṁ dukkhaṁ vipariṇāmadhammaṁ, api nu taṁ anupādāya evaṁ diį¹­į¹­hi uppajjeyya: ā€œBut by not grasping what’s impermanent, suffering, and perishable, would the view arise:

ā€˜na vātā vāyanti, na najjo sandanti, na gabbhiniyo vijāyanti, na candimasÅ«riyā udenti vā apenti vā esikaį¹­į¹­hāyiį¹­į¹­hitÄā€™ā€ti? ā€˜Winds don’t blow; rivers don’t flow; pregnant women don’t give birth; the moon and stars neither rise nor set, but stand firm like a pillar’?ā€

ā€œNo hetaṁ, bhanteā€. ā€œNo, sir.ā€

ā€œYato kho, bhikkhave, ariyasāvakassa imesu ca į¹­hānesu kaį¹…khā pahÄ«nā hoti, dukkhepissa kaį¹…khā pahÄ«nā hoti, dukkhasamudayepissa kaį¹…khā pahÄ«nā hoti, dukkhanirodhepissa kaį¹…khā pahÄ«nā hoti, dukkhanirodhagāminiyā paį¹­ipadāyapissa kaį¹…khā pahÄ«nā hotiā€”ā€œWhen a noble disciple has given up doubt regarding these six grounds, and has given up doubt in suffering, its origin, its cessation, and the practice that leads to its cessation, Six ā€œgrounds for viewsā€ are taught at MN 22:15.1: the first four aggregates taken as self, plus the epistemic heptad taken as self, plus the eternalist view. By analogy, the ā€œsixā€ here would be the first four aggregates, the epistemic heptad, and the specific view which varies per discourse. This, however, results in seven. We can resolve this by assuming that the Majjhima version is correct. ā€œConsciousnessā€ in this context should be replaced by the epistemic heptad, and only four aggregates are mentioned as such. Presumably the Saṁyutta redactors normalized the aggregates to the standard five.

ayaṁ vuccati, bhikkhave, ariyasāvako sotāpanno avinipātadhammo niyato sambodhiparāyanoā€ti. they’re called a noble disciple who is a stream-enterer, not liable to be reborn in the underworld, assured, destined for awakening.ā€

Paṭhamaṁ.
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