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Saṁyutta Nikāya 12.48 Linked Discourses 12.48

5. Gahapativagga 5. Householders

Lokāyatikasutta A Cosmologist

Sāvatthiyaṁ viharati. At Sāvatthī.

Atha kho lokāyatiko brāhmaṇo yena bhagavā …pe… Then a brahmin cosmologist went up to the Buddha … ā€œCosmologyā€ (lokāyata) was a branch of Vedic study concerned with the nature and extent of the world and how this may be known (AN 9.38, SN 12.48; cf. Bį¹›hadāraṇyaka Upaniį¹£ad 3.3.1). Vedic metaphysics posited ā€œexistenceā€ as a primordial ā€œonenessā€ from which the diversity of the world spread out.

ekamantaṁ nisinno kho lokāyatiko brāhmaṇo bhagavantaṁ etadavoca: Seated to one side he said to the Buddha:

ā€œKiṁ nu kho, bho gotama, sabbamatthÄ«ā€ti? ā€œWorthy Gotama, does all exist?ā€

ā€œā€˜Sabbamatthī’ti kho, brāhmaṇa, jeį¹­į¹­hametaṁ lokāyataį¹ā€. ā€œā€˜All exists’: this is the oldest cosmology, brahmin.ā€ The ā€œoldest cosmologyā€ is quite literal. The oldest Indian cosmology is found in a few late Rig Vedic hymns, especially the NāsadÄ«ya SÅ«kta, which begins: ā€œThe nonexistent did not exist, nor did the existent exist at that timeā€ (Rig Veda 10.129.1, Jamison/Brereton translation). RV 10.72.2 says that for the oldest gods, ā€œwhat exists was born from what does not existā€.

ā€œKiṁ pana, bho gotama, sabbaṁ natthÄ«ā€ti? ā€œThen does all not exist?ā€

ā€œā€˜Sabbaṁ natthī’ti kho, brāhmaṇa, dutiyametaṁ lokāyataį¹ā€. ā€œā€˜All does not exist’: this is the second cosmology.ā€

ā€œKiṁ nu kho, bho gotama, sabbamekattanā€ti? ā€œWell, is all oneness?ā€

ā€œā€˜Sabbamekattan’ti kho, brāhmaṇa, tatiyametaṁ lokāyataį¹ā€. ā€œā€˜All is oneness’: this is the third cosmology.ā€ After discussing existence for six lines, the seventh line of the NāsadÄ«ya SÅ«kta begins, ā€œThat One breathed without wind by its independent will. There existed nothing else beyond that.ā€ Then, ā€œthat One was born by the power of heatā€. Thus the one is the immortal Divinity, confirming the commentary’s identification of this with eternalism (and the following with annihilationism). Similarly, RV 10.121 speaks of the anonymous Creator who ā€œexisted aloneā€.

ā€œKiṁ pana, bho gotama, sabbaṁ puthuttanā€ti? ā€œThen is all expansiveness?ā€ Puthutta is used elsewhere of a ā€œspreadingā€ poison, but only here in a philosophical sense. Throughout the Rig Veda, pį¹›thu is the broad expanse of earth or waters, spread out by Indra (eg. RV 10.113.4) and burned over by Agni (RV 10.156.3). It has sexual connotations, too: an ample womb (RV 10.99.2) or a fat ass (RV 10.86.8; Śatapatha Brāhmaṇa 1.2.5.16, 3.5.1.11). Thus while ā€œonenessā€ suggests the Divinity that underlies all, ā€œexpansivenessā€ suggests the broad, pregnant world in which humans live. Thus the sacrificial cake should be spread expansively, but not too expansively, for that would make it human and therefore mortal (ŚB 1.2.2.9). In the NāsadÄ«ya SÅ«kta instead of pį¹›thu we find tiraścÄ«na (ā€œstretched acrossā€; the two terms are synonymous at ŚB 6.3.3.19) describing the searching minds of the sage-poets: ā€œTheir cord was stretched across: Did something exist below it? Did something exist above?ā€ (RV 10.129.5). Moreover, Pali puthu stands for both Sanskrit pį¹›thu (ā€œbroad, wide, expansiveā€) and pį¹›thak (ā€œseparate, individualā€). Both senses apply here, and indeed, they are not separate even in the Rig Veda, for things that proceed separately (pį¹›thak, rays of the sun, rivers, cows) spread out (pį¹›thu) across the broad earth (pį¹›thivÄ«).

ā€œā€˜Sabbaṁ puthuttan’ti kho, brāhmaṇa, catutthametaṁ lokāyataṁ. ā€œā€˜All is expansiveness’: this is the fourth cosmology.

Ete te, brāhmaṇa, ubho ante anupagamma majjhena tathāgato dhammaṁ deseti: Avoiding these two extremes, the Realized One teaches by the middle way:

ā€˜avijjāpaccayā saį¹…khārā; ā€˜Ignorance is a requirement for choices.

saį¹…khārapaccayā viññāṇaṁ …pe… Choices are a requirement for consciousness. …

evametassa kevalassa dukkhakkhandhassa samudayo hoti. That is how this entire mass of suffering originates.

Avijjāya tveva asesavirāganirodhā saį¹…khāranirodho; When ignorance fades away and ceases no residue left behind, choices cease.

saį¹…khāranirodhā viññāṇanirodho …pe… When choices cease, consciousness ceases. …

evametassa kevalassa dukkhakkhandhassa nirodho hotÄ«ā€™ā€ti. That is how this entire mass of suffering ceases.ā€™ā€

Evaṁ vutte, lokāyatiko brāhmaṇo bhagavantaṁ etadavoca: When he said this, the brahmin cosmologist said to the Buddha,

ā€œabhikkantaṁ, bho gotama …pe… ā€œExcellent, worthy Gotama! Excellent! …

ajjatagge pāṇupetaṁ saraṇaṁ gatanā€ti. From this day forth, may the worthy Gotama remember me as a lay follower who has gone for refuge for life.ā€

Aṭṭhamaṁ.
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