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Saṁyutta Nikāya 1.5 Linked Discourses 1.5

1. Naįø·avagga 1. A Reed

Katichindasutta Cut How Many? How Many Must One Cut?

Sāvatthinidānaṁ. At SāvatthÄ«. The redactors show their playful side here, placing this ā€œriddle of fivesā€ as the fifth sutta of the Saṁyutta. | The enigmatic repetition of ā€œfiveā€ is reminiscent of Bį¹›hadāraṇyaka Upaniį¹£ad 4.4.17: ā€œWhere the five groups of five and space are established, I regard that Self as the immortal Brahman, knowing which I am immortal.ā€ Or perhaps it is a reference to the five great sacrifices, to sages, gods, ghosts, men and ancestors (Manu 4.21).At Savatthi.

Ekamantaṁ į¹­hitā kho sā devatā bhagavato santike imaṁ gāthaṁ abhāsi: Standing to one side, that deity spoke this verse in the Buddha’s presence: Standing to one side, that devatā recited this verse in the presence of the Blessed One:

ā€œKati chinde kati jahe, ā€œCut how many? Drop how many? ā€œHow many must one cut, how many abandon,

kati cuttari bhāvaye; Develop how many more? And how many further must one develop?

Kati saį¹…gātigo bhikkhu, When a mendicant slips how many chains When a bhikkhu has surmounted how many ties

oghatiṇṇoti vuccatÄ«ā€ti. are they said to have crossed the flood?ā€ Is he called a crosser of the flood?ā€

ā€œPaƱca chinde paƱca jahe, ā€œFive to cut, five to drop, According to the commentary, the five lower fetters are cut, the five higher fetters are dropped, and the five faculties are developed.ā€œOne must cut off five, abandon five,

paƱca cuttari bhāvaye; and five more to develop. And must develop a further five.

PaƱca saį¹…gātigo bhikkhu, When a mendicant slips five chains The ā€œfive chainsā€ are not defined in the Suttas, but Vb 17:238.1 identifies them as greed, hate, delusion, conceit, and views.A bhikkhu who has surmounted five ties

oghatiṇṇoti vuccatÄ«ā€ti. they’re said to have crossed the flood.ā€ Is called a crosser of the flood. ā€
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