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Sutta NipÄta 5.8 Sutta NipÄta 5.7Anthology of Discourses 5.8
NandamÄį¹avapucchÄ Nandaās QuestionsThe Questions of Nanda
āSanti loke munayo, āThere are in the world sages, they sayāPeople say there are sages in the world,ā
(iccÄyasmÄ nando) (Nanda)said Venerable Nanda,
JanÄ vadanti tayidaį¹ kathaį¹su; āin what way?ābut how is this the case?
ĆÄį¹Å«papannaį¹ no muniį¹ vadanti, Do they call one a sage for possessing knowledgeIs someone called a sage because of their knowledge,
UdÄhu ve jÄ«vitenÅ«papannaį¹ā. or possessing a way of life?āor because of their way of life?ā
āNa diį¹į¹hiyÄ na sutiyÄ na ƱÄį¹ena, (ā¦) āNot on account of his views, learning, or knowledgeāExperts do not speak of a sage in terms of The extraneous variant reading sÄ«labbatena (not in the Niddesa) appears, oddly, in place of the reciterās identification of the speaker. The parallel phrase at Snp 4.9:5.1 has it on the next line.
MunÄ«dha nanda kusalÄ vadanti; do the skilled here, Nanda, call one a sage.view, learning, or knowledge.
VisenikatvÄ anÄ«ghÄ nirÄsÄ, Those who live disarmed, undesiring, untroubled:Those who are sages live far from the crowd, I say,
Caranti ye te munayoti brÅ«miā. Those, I say, are called sages.āuntroubled, with no need for hope.ā
āYe kecime samaį¹abrÄhmaį¹Äse, āWhatever brahmans & contemplativesāAs to those ascetics and brahmins,ā
(iccÄyasmÄ nando) (Nanda)said Venerable Nanda,
Diį¹į¹hassutenÄpi vadanti suddhiį¹; describe purity in terms of views & learning,āwho speak of purity in terms of what is seen or heard,
SÄ«labbatenÄpi vadanti suddhiį¹, describe purity in terms of habits & practices,or in terms of precepts and vows,
AnekarÅ«pena vadanti suddhiį¹. describe purity in terms of manifold ways:or in terms of countless different things.
Kaccissu te bhagavÄ tattha yatÄ carantÄ, Have they, dear sir, living there in that way,Living self-controlled in that matter,
AtÄru jÄtiƱca jaraƱca mÄrisa; crossed over birth & aging?have they crossed over rebirth and old age, good fellow?
PucchÄmi taį¹ bhagavÄ brÅ«hi me taį¹ā. I ask you, Blessed One. Please tell me.āI ask you, Blessed One; please tell me this.ā
āYe kecime samaį¹abrÄhmaį¹Äse, āWhatever brahmans & contemplativesāAs to those ascetics and brahmins,ā
(nandÄti bhagavÄ) (the Buddha)replied the Buddha,
Diį¹į¹hassutenÄpi vadanti suddhiį¹; describe purity in terms of views & learning,āwho speak of purity in terms of what is seen or heard,
SÄ«labbatenÄpi vadanti suddhiį¹, describe purity in terms of habits & practices,or in terms of precepts and vows,
AnekarÅ«pena vadanti suddhiį¹; describe purity in terms of manifold ways:or in terms of countless different things.
KiƱcÄpi te tattha yatÄ caranti, None of them, living there in that way,Even though they live self-controlled in that matter,
NÄtariį¹su jÄtijaranti brÅ«miā. I tell you, have crossed over birth & aging.ātheyāve not crossed over rebirth and old age, I declare.ā
āYe kecime samaį¹abrÄhmaį¹Äse, āWhatever brahmans & contemplativesāAs to those ascetics and brahmins,ā
(iccÄyasmÄ nando) (Nanda)said Venerable Nanda,
Diį¹į¹hassutenÄpi vadanti suddhiį¹; describe purity in terms of views & learning,āwho speak of purity in terms of what is seen or heard,
SÄ«labbatenÄpi vadanti suddhiį¹, describe purity in terms of habits & practices,or in terms of precepts and vows,
AnekarÅ«pena vadanti suddhiį¹. describe purity in terms of manifold ways:or in terms of countless different things.
Te ce muni brÅ«si anoghatiį¹į¹e, If, sage, as you say, theyāve not crossed over the flood,You say they have not crossed the flood, sage.
Atha ko carahi devamanussaloke; then who in the world of beings divine & human, dear sir,So who then in the world of gods and humans
AtÄri jÄtiƱca jaraƱca mÄrisa, has crossed over birth & aging?has crossed over rebirth and old age, good fellow?
PucchÄmi taį¹ bhagavÄ brÅ«hi me taį¹ā. I ask you, Blessed One. Please tell me.āI ask you, Blessed One; please tell me this.ā
āNÄhaį¹ sabbe samaį¹abrÄhmaį¹Äse, āI donāt say that all brahmans & contemplativesāI donāt say that all ascetics and brahmins,ā
(nandÄti bhagavÄ) (the Buddha)replied the Buddha,
JÄtijarÄya nivutÄti brÅ«mi; are shrouded in birth & aging.āare shrouded by rebirth and old age.
Ye sÄ«dha diį¹į¹haį¹ va sutaį¹ mutaį¹ vÄ, Those here whoāve abandoned whatās seen, heard, & sensed,There are those here who have given up all
SÄ«labbataį¹ vÄpi pahÄya sabbaį¹. habits & practices āallāOn the abandoning of habits and practices, see The Mind Like Fire Unbound, chapters 3 and 4, and The Paradox of Becoming, chapter 4.that is seen, heard, and thought, and precepts and vows,
AnekarÅ«pampi pahÄya sabbaį¹, whoāve abandoned their manifold ways āagain, allāwho have given up all the countless different things.
Taį¹haį¹ pariƱƱÄya anÄsavÄse; who, comprehending craving, are effluent-free:Fully understanding craving, they are free of defilements,
Te ve narÄ oghatiį¹į¹Äti brÅ«miā. They are the ones, I tell you, whoāve crossed over the flood.āthose people, I say, have crossed the flood.ā
āEtÄbhinandÄmi vaco mahesino, āI relish, Gotama, the Great Seerās wordsāI rejoice in the words of the great seer!
Sukittitaį¹ gotamanÅ«padhÄ«kaį¹; well-expounded, without acquisition.You have expounded non-attachment well, Gotama.
Ye sÄ«dha diį¹į¹haį¹ va sutaį¹ mutaį¹ vÄ, Those here whoāve abandoned whatās seen, heard, & sensed,There are those here who have given up all
SÄ«labbataį¹ vÄpi pahÄya sabbaį¹. habits & practices āallāthat is seen, heard, and thought, and precepts and vows,
AnekarÅ«pampi pahÄya sabbaį¹, whoāve abandoned their manifold ways āagain, allāwho have given up all the countless different things.
Taį¹haį¹ pariƱƱÄya anÄsavÄse; who, comprehending craving, are effluent-free:Fully understanding craving, they are free of defilements,
Ahampi te oghatiį¹į¹Äti brÅ«mÄ«āti. I, too, say theyāve crossed over the flood.āthose people, I agree, have crossed the flood.ā
NandamÄį¹avapucchÄ sattamÄ. Nandaās Questions, the seventh.